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The scribor, Bro Brown III, scribeth...

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> Many are likely to let some pastor work it out for them and unquestioningly
> take his solution as the truth.  

Heh, heh.... weeeeellllllll.  I think this is a true statement.  From when
we are small and in school while we grow up through the *system* ... people
aren't often taught how to critically *think* for themselves.  People are
taught how to react in a group situation and taught how to flow with the 
pack for the most part.  Even within the apostolic ranks... people are loyal
to their particular *pack* that they associate.  Regardless to the level of
truth anybody has, they'll fight the doctrines of the group *more* than seek
out what the bible has to say and work their own salvation out with fear and
trembling.  Often it's said... "If it's good enough for my pastor... it's
good enough for me."
 
> Although I disagree with Bro. Fretwell on this point, I will not argue
> it with him, as I do feel that he has at least worked it out for
> himself with the fear and trembling expected when attempting to
> discern the things of God.  Most of the other participants in this
> discussion are most likely taking a doctrinal position and calling it
> truth.  Doctrine is good, but only when it is the doctrine of God, and
> not just the doctrine of men.

Yeah... just how much baggage can be added to the salvational message to
transmogrify *truth* into *mostly truth* and/or *partial truth*.  I think
it's the traditions of man (regardless of the denominal faith, apostolic
organization, independentness, etc.) that dilute truth.  Though a lot of
things are preached from the pulpit that are good for us that are considered
"holiness standards" (which is a kind of yardstick by which people use to
measure someone's salvation when someone *sizes* up someone elses walk with
God) how much of that can be successfully added as a prerequisite of 
fellowship (and supposedly salvation) to make the baggage added to the 
*truth* too heavy to carry.  What then happens, if the "burden" placed on 
the saints isn't the same as God would have placed ... then the good 
intentions of the pastor/minister is *outside* of what God would require.

 Re 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of 
          the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto 
          these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that 
          are written in this book: 
       19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book 
          of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the 
          book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things 
          which are written in this book. 

... which, I think, that many pastors/ministers at judgement time will
be left on the outside because the traditions that they teach and hand
down (which are certainly well intentioned) openly dilute that which is 
in the book.
 
> Now the really important question is whether this is a salvation
> issue: can one be wrong about this topic and still be saved?  If so,
> then we had all better be fearing and trembling; if not, then it is
> not worth getting all worked up over anyway.

I think it all comes down to someone abiding in the leading of the Holy
Ghost.  The Holy Ghost will lead us and guide us into all truth.  If the 
Holy Ghost guides us *outside* of that which our ministers/pastors would
have, and we reject it, then we are no longer abiding in truth.  We, as
apostolics, are not guarunteed that our pastors/ministers are 100% on 
track.  

Bro Tyler
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