DIETY OF JESUS--EXPLANTION

David Smith (davesmith@ns.sympatico.ca)
Thu, 16 Dec 1999 22:18:20 -0400



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G.W. Sullivan: Even the name Yaweh is a transliteration, as there were also
no "w"s in
Hebrew.

ME: Yahweh indeed is a transliteration, whereas “the LORD” is a translation,
but not
even a translation of Yahweh but of “Adonai”, which was put in place of the
deleted
Yahweh.

Correct you are there are no “w”s in Hebrew, there are also no “a” “b” “c” or
“d”s.

G.W. Sullivan: It was written originally in the Hebrew texts as YHVH.

ME: “YHVH” is not Hebrew, it represents the 4 Hebrew consonants the Hebrews
used in spelling Yahweh’s name. YHWH is the 4 equivalent English letters that
represent the 4 Hebrew ones. To properly transliterate the name, English
translators had to add the 2 vowels “a” and “e” which resulted in YaHVeH.
hwhy is what would have appeared in the Hebrew text.

G.W. Sullivan: It was written originally in the Hebrew texts as YHVH, or as
you pointed out Yah;

ME: I never said Yah = YHVH, I wrote “Yah is the poetic or short form of the
Father’s name.” Yah is nearly always used when it becomes part of a person’s
name rather then the complete Yahweh. Look for instance at halleluYah, which
means praise Yahweh but uses the short poetic form. By the way when someone
says “praise the LORD” they’re in a sense saying “halleluYah,” unfortunately
they’re not including His name in their praise.

JeremYah (Jeremiah) translates Yahweh exalts but doesn’t include the full
name
Yahweh.  ObadYah (Obadiah) servant of Yahweh and  NehemYah (Nehemiah) comfort
of Yahweh are other examples (“iah” sounds out as “yah,” say it out loud
yourself). To be exactly correct their full names should read: JeremYahweh,
ObadYahweh NehemYahweh

G.W. Sullivan: Which is where we get the *ONLY* "God name" brought forward
into
the New Covenent; Yahshua.

ME: Yahshua name translates "Yahweh is salvation" (see D. Bernard’s “In the
Name of Jesus” pg. 36) and yet to be precise the Savior’s full name should
read Yahwehshua.

G.W. Sullivan: Jesus (Yahshua) said, "I *CAME* in my Father's name" (John 5),

ME: The Messiah certainly did come in his Father’s name for his Father’s name
was fully included inside of his own name - Yahweh-shua.

Joh 17:26  And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare [it].

Joh 17:11  Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast
given me.
He has to be talking of the name Yahweh when he says “thy name” and “thine
own
name.”

G.W. Sullivan:  "I have manifected *THY name" (John 17).

Manifected #5319  phaneroo  AV - make manifest 19, appear 12, manifest 9,
show 3, be manifest 2, show (one's) self 2, manifestly declare 1, manifest
forth 1; 49 to make manifest or visible, to make known by teaching.

ME: He made known Yahweh’s name through his teaching or the gospels are
untrue, for Yahshua said he did on many occasions.

G.W. Sullivan: We don't believe in two Gods, or three Gods, ergo; we call
ourselves
oneness.

ME: Paul believed in only one God too. He believed in only one God and in His
Son the
Messiah.

1Co 8:6  But to us [there is but] ONE GOD, THE FATHER, of whom [are] all
things, and we in him; and one Master Jesus Christ, by whom [are] all things,
and we by him.

1Ti 2:5  For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the
man (444) Christ Jesus; {444 anthropos  human being; AV - man 552, not tr 4,
misc 3; 559}

Eph 1:17  That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may
give unto you the spirit of wisdom.

Paul distinguishes between God the Father and His Son all inside of one
sentence.

Yahshua himself does the exact same.

Joh 17:3  And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true
God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

Mr 10:18  And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none
good but one, [that is], God.

Joh 20:17  I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and [to] my God, and
your God.

G.W. Sullivan: The only God name you will find in New Testament scripture is
his own; Jesus (Yahshua).

ME: Read this passage: Joel 2:28  And it shall come to pass afterward, that I
will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters
shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see
visions: 29  And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days
will I pour out my spirit. 30  And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in
the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. 31  The sun shall be turned
into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and
the terrible day of the LORD (#3068 Yahweh) come. 32  And it shall come to
pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD (3068) shall be
delivered

Sound familiar? It should to Pentecostals for these are the precise words of
Peter on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2: 17-21). Peter, the apostle with the
keys of the kingdom saying “Whosoever shall call on the name of Yahweh shall
be save”Acts 2:21.

Dave

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G.W. Sullivan: Even the name Yaweh is a transliteration, as there were also no "w"s in
Hebrew.

ME: Yahweh indeed is a transliteration, whereas “the LORD” is a translation, but not
even a translation of Yahweh but of “Adonai”, which was put in place of the deleted
Yahweh.

Correct you are there are no “w”s in Hebrew, there are also no “a” “b” “c” or “d”s.

G.W. Sullivan: It was written originally in the Hebrew texts as YHVH.

ME: “YHVH” is not Hebrew, it represents the 4 Hebrew consonants the Hebrews used in spelling Yahweh’s name. YHWH is the 4 equivalent English letters that represent the 4 Hebrew ones. To properly transliterate the name, English translators had to add the 2 vowels “a” and “e” which resulted in YaHVeH.  hwhy is what would have appeared in the Hebrew text.

G.W. Sullivan: It was written originally in the Hebrew texts as YHVH, or as you pointed out Yah;

ME: I never said Yah = YHVH, I wrote “Yah is the poetic or short form of the Father’s name.” Yah is nearly always used when it becomes part of a person’s name rather then the complete Yahweh. Look for instance at halleluYah, which means praise Yahweh but uses the short poetic form. By the way when someone says “praise the LORD” they’re in a sense saying “halleluYah,” unfortunately they’re not including His name in their praise.

JeremYah (Jeremiah) translates Yahweh exalts but doesn’t include the full name
Yahweh.  ObadYah (Obadiah) servant of Yahweh and  NehemYah (Nehemiah) comfort of Yahweh are other examples (“iah” sounds out as “yah,” say it out loud yourself). To be exactly correct their full names should read: JeremYahweh, ObadYahweh NehemYahweh

G.W. Sullivan: Which is where we get the *ONLY* "God name" brought forward into
the New Covenent; Yahshua.

ME: Yahshua name translates "Yahweh is salvation" (see D. Bernard’s “In the Name of Jesus” pg. 36) and yet to be precise the Savior’s full name should read Yahwehshua.

G.W. Sullivan: Jesus (Yahshua) said, "I *CAME* in my Father's name" (John 5),

ME: The Messiah certainly did come in his Father’s name for his Father’s name was fully included inside of his own name - Yahweh-shua.

Joh 17:26  And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare [it].
 
Joh 17:11  Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me.
He has to be talking of the name Yahweh when he says “thy name” and “thine own
name.”

G.W. Sullivan:  "I have manifected *THY name" (John 17).

Manifected #5319  phaneroo  AV - make manifest 19, appear 12, manifest 9, show 3, be manifest 2, show (one's) self 2, manifestly declare 1, manifest forth 1; 49 to make manifest or visible, to make known by teaching.

ME: He made known Yahweh’s name through his teaching or the gospels are untrue, for Yahshua said he did on many occasions.
 
G.W. Sullivan: We don't believe in two Gods, or three Gods, ergo; we call ourselves
oneness.

ME: Paul believed in only one God too. He believed in only one God and in His Son the
Messiah.
 
1Co 8:6  But to us [there is but] ONE GOD, THE FATHER, of whom [are] all things, and we in him; and one Master Jesus Christ, by whom [are] all things, and we by him.

1Ti 2:5  For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man (444) Christ Jesus; {444 anthropos  human being; AV - man 552, not tr 4, misc 3; 559}

Eph 1:17  That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom.

Paul distinguishes between God the Father and His Son all inside of one sentence.

Yahshua himself does the exact same.

Joh 17:3  And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

Mr 10:18  And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God.

Joh 20:17  I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and [to] my God, and your God.

G.W. Sullivan: The only God name you will find in New Testament scripture is his own; Jesus (Yahshua).

ME: Read this passage: Joel 2:28  And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: 29  And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit. 30  And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. 31  The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and
the terrible day of the LORD (#3068 Yahweh) come. 32  And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD (3068) shall be delivered

Sound familiar? It should to Pentecostals for these are the precise words of Peter on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2: 17-21). Peter, the apostle with the keys of the kingdom saying “Whosoever shall call on the name of Yahweh shall be save”Acts 2:21.
 
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