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> . However,  to merely suggest that a lack of outward
prosperity necessarily denotes a lack of  faith just does
not cut it. 

 Dave wrote,
> Thank you for your inquiry. Questions such as these need
answers and I believe that the Word provides sufficient
answers to these concerns.

Amen!
 
> First of all, Prosperity in the Biblical point of view,
does not necessarily mean "finances". We can be prosperous
in our marriage, social life, homes, employment, and well
as our Spiritual Life. However, let us not fail to
recognize the many scriptural references I cited on a
previous discussion detailing that God desires to bless His
people with finances. Remember Abraham? 

Abraham was not always rich.  Remember how he got most of
his riches?  He was afraid that Pharoah would kill him for
Sarah and lied and ended up recieving a "bride price" for
his wife.
He recieved more in basically the same manner.

How did Abraham get in this situation?  He left his
promised land to go to Egypt because there was a FAMINE. 
If God gives you land and you have faith, you will not let
a little thing like a famine run you off will you?

Don't say that the famine was a lack due to a lack of his
faith because he left his home and inheretance in faith. 
The famine came next.
 

>... Please remember that Job did not have the full
understanding of faith that we have today. 

PUHLEEZE!  How many of US would have defended God like Job
did.  Many try to interpret the things Job said about God
as blame.  He said God gave this stuff and He took it back.
 Where is the blame in that?  If you lend me YOUR car and
then you come and take it back and I say "Dave gave me the
car and Dave took it back."  Did I blame you?  If I then
ask you "Dave, have I made you mad at me?  I haven't done
anythig wrong have I?  Why did you take your car back?  I
thought we were friends." 
Have I blamed you?

> It was satan who took away and caused all the turmoil.
God allowed it. 

God SENT Satan to oppress Job.  God asked Satan "have you
considered my servant Job? and then when Satan asked if God
would drop the hedge God sent him to afflict Job.

>This is what Christians do today, blame God for the
circumstances they encounter when in actuality, the trials
of life that we face are to purge us and bring us forth
like pure gold.

This is absolutely true!  You missed the point of Job.  The
point is not that Job lacked in faith but that he held to
that faith even when it seemed to him that God had
abandoned him.  Job's faith was that even if he didn't
understand the things God had sent his way God was Still
God!

>In New Covenant, Jesus took upon His body all sickness,
diseases, infirmities, as well as our sins. 

Where exactly does it say that Jesus took all our sickness
etc. upon His body?  The point with Paul is precisely that
Jesus DIDN'T take that thorn in his FLESH away.  Did Paul
really ask Jesus three times to take away the persecution? 
Paul goes on to say that the weaknesses are in his flesh. 
This was BTW the sermon last night.

>Yes, God wants His people to live in Health. 

Psalms 34:19 Many are the afflictions of the righteous: but
the LORD delivereth him out of them all.  The faith truely
comes in the paitient (cheerful) endurance until the
deliverance comes.
Jesus said that His strenght is perfected in OUR weakness. 
If I am standing telling Satan what a wimp he is am I weak
or strong.
When I cheerfully say Lord you know how much my head hurts
today, not bad but it actually does, but you can deliver
me, you have done it before but YOU are in charge and if
you have a purpose for this mild or other wise pain, allow
that I might OVERCOME this to YOUR greater glory.

The Glory to God is in winning the battle, not in avoiding
them.

Ever consider that the affliction may be chastisement?  Not
by any means always but just what do yo think God uses to
"Whip"
His kids.  Rather that a lack of "prosperity" as a sign
that you are out of God's will, a lack of chastisement is.

I'll say this and I will go (prayer line).  I stood and
testified about how I was sick and my family was shot and
they were really riding me at work and the Devil was coming
at me like a flood but you know what?  It was ALRIGHT!  I
don't mean that I said in faith that it was alright, I mean
that I had an underlying PEACE that told me that even
though all this was upon me MY GOD WAS IN CHARGE AND HE
LOVES ME DAVE!  He wouldn't 
let this happen if it weren't real important.  

Timothy (weeping because HE is soo good to me) Litteral
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