> I am thankful that my old honda (1984) accord even after 2 *major > Major* wrecks (I rolled it and took out a fence row. THe posts were > railroad ties) can still top 80 mph easy. I almost made a crack about "if you're doing over 80mph no wonder you've had two major wrecks" but then I remembered that the speed limit in Oklahoma is 85 mph or so on the tollways... Richard Masoner