TWO NATURES, ONE PERSON
Michael Frazier (miykael1@jennifer.pernet.net)
Thu, 7 Dec 1995 14:30:54 -0600 (CST)
Mike Murphy wrote:
>
> >7:16-18 "Jesus answered, 'My teaching is not my own. It come from him who
> >sent me. If anyone chooses to do God's will, he will find out whether
> >me teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my own. He who speaks
> >on his own does so to gain honor for himself, but he who wokrs for the
> >honor of the one who sent him is a man of truth; ther is nothing false
> >about him."
>
> Here we see Jesus deny being God. Either his words were his own, meaning his
> identity, or they were God's words, another identity. But Jesus spoke God's
> words, and not his own. Therefore, he was not God. He was not the Father nor
> any Trinity member. He was a servant, the man from heaven!
>
Michael, I apologize. You are not polytheistic. You are following Arianism. I apologize for
misunderstanding your field of opinion. However, Arian was also incorrect in his denial of the
Deity of Christ.
It is true that Christ came in the form of man, as a servant. While a man, Christ limited
himself to human limitations. Thus, he became tired and hungry. He needed rest. He needed
spiritual uplifting, from his friends, and from the omnipresent Spirit of God. However, while
the man Christ Jesus was limited to a time and place, the eternal Spirit of God could not be so
limited. God is God. God cannot be limited.
I will not dispute with you over the basis that Christ came in the form of man, in order to
accomplish the supreme purpose of God. That purpose was to die for the sins of mankind.
However, I must dispute you over the basis that Jesus, although a man, was still the express
image of God, retaining the full power of Deity. The Word clearly states that the fullness of
the Godhead, ie Deity, was present in the body of Jesus Christ.
>
> If you didn't see anything, maybe its because of 2 Cor 4:4.
>
The Deity of Jesus comes by revelation. "No man can say that Jesus Christ is Lord, but by the
Spirit." One MUST have the Spirit in order to fully understand the full Deity of Jesus. You have
just claimed that I am "blinded," but you fail to understand this textual passage of the Holy
Word. The "blind" cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of
God. First of all, I understand the Gospel quite plainly. In that, I am not blinded. I
understand the Glory of Christ, in his submission to God as a servant, and in his wonderul power
of Almighty God. In this I am not blinded. I understand that Christ was the IMAGE of God in
that he is the ONLY form of God any man will ever see. In this I am not blinded.
The Word delcares wisdom is justifed of her children. My friend, your words are not declaring
any wisdom - only vain babblings of which we are expressly told to beware.
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I am also curious as to know what your pastor has to say of your beliefs...
Michael