Trinity Correspondence

Mike Murphy (tes@moscom.com)
Sat, 2 Dec 1995 04:27:30 -0600 (CST)


At 16:08 11/22/1995 -0600, you wrote:
>MM>So if "Jesus" is the Father's name, God lied to Moses when he said, "I am 
>MM>Yahweh, that is my name FOREVER, and my memorial to ALL GENERATIONS?"
>
>You seem to forget that Yeshua (JESUS) includes Yaweh in it.  And, you
>seem to forget to OT scripture in which the LORD declared that He would
>have a new name, of which the Gentiles would follow.

You seem to forget which verse that is, because you're mistaken! No way!
If I'm wrong, I'll admit you! But I bet my boots you can't deliver that one!
JESUS said he would have new name, but the Father never will. It only
further distinguishes them in importance.

>MM>The power is in the name of Jesus, of course. My question is whether Jesus
>MM>is the FATHER literally, or the LOCATION of his FULNESS and DIETY. Which is
>MM>not exactly the same thing.
>
>Have you also forgotten the scripture in which Jesus answeres Philip's
>statement, "Lord, show us the Father and we will be satifisfied." 
>Jesus answered, "Philip, have I been with you for so long a time, and
>yet you still do not know me?  When you have seen me, you have seen the
>Father.  And why then, do you say, 'Show us the Father,' ?"

Read the REST of that chapter! C-O-N-T-E-X-T. He then says, "The Father is
IN me". NOT "I am the same person".


>Paul wrote that anyone who would deny the Father and the Son, was
>Antichrist (against Christ). 

No, he did not. John did. It's right after he stated the Christian creed:
"We have seen, and do testify, that the Father SENT the Son to be the Savior
of the World." 1 Jn 4:14.

 This was to show how the agnostic
>teaching of that day (which said that Jesus did not truly come in a
>fleshly body) was in error.  Paul was declaring that Jesus was both
>Deity and Humanity.  The Father shows Deity, the Son shows Humanity. 
>Jesus was both GOD and MAN.  To say otherwise is the spirit of
>Antichrist, and is not of God.

But Jesus could STILL BE SPERATE and have GOd inside of himself. It would
all be the same really. 

>Now, the manifestation of the SON is not the same manifestation of the
>FATHER, but yet the SAME GOD (who is one in person) has manifested
>Himself as both the Father and Son.  This is the omnipotence of our
>Holy God.

I agree. But he is manifested in YOU, his SPIRIT lives within, BUT YOU ARE
NOT GOD!!!!!!!!

>If Jesus was not the name of the Father, then Peter disobeyed the Lord
>on the Day of Pentecost, and we are all in error.  For the Lord told
>His diciples to baptize all mankind in the name of the Father, and of
>the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.  Peter fulfilled this commandment, but
>declaring that name - the name of Jesus.

STOP IN THE NAME OF THE LAW!!!!! (Is my name "Law?")

>HI>I'm only asking you people to be a little fair and open minded!
>
>And this has been a fair and openminded reponse.  :)

yes, it was, thank you Michael! It was very intellectual. 

Impressive indeed!
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