Saved Homosexuals...

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Let me make a very terse point from the first chapter of Romans

"They changed the truth of God for a lie."

Look it up and you will discover this is refering to gays.  Truth of God
refers to scritpture written by prophets who spoke as the spirit led them,
and here lie means human philosephy however well reasoned which is a lie
if it conflicts with scripture.

In this dramatic statement Paul has admitted that it is only the
realization of God's wisdom which saves you and me from the sin of
homosexuality.  Yet if we fail to see this there is no place in the
Jerusalem for us. Leaders of gays are well meaning blindment leading
others like them.

Certain comments I would like to make are relevant to this letter
however.  Bearing in mind that our duty is teach everyone salvation and
the biblical meaning of a holy lifestyle.

"Calvin was an an atheist, which I can never be."
				Thomas Jefferson to John Adams


			Yeaton Clifton

			yhclifto@vela.acs.oakland.edu

On Sun, 16 Aug 1998 Harrell01@aol.com wrote:

> >> From a social standpoint, I take no issue with homosexual couples or 
> >> homosexuality in general.
> 
> >  Why can you apply that to homosexuals and not to rapists, murderers,
> >  thieves, etc in particular reaction to what makes them rapists,
> >  murderers, etc?
> 
> Because homosexuality is not a CRIME...at least not in America, unless
> one of the parties is a minor, of course.
	In Michigan homesexual acts are a crime, as is adultary.
	
	I don't know if this is socially relevant.
> >> I happen to know quite a few homosexuals, and I have come to realize that
> >> outside of their sexual and/or social preference, they are just as normal
> as
> >> you or I.



> >  I can tell you listen to them alot as well.  There are so many factors
> >  about homosexuals that place them outside the norm of society.
> 
> Please tell me...and remember OTHER THAN their sexual/social preference,
> what makes them "abnormal?"


	I could list quite a few but the cause of these abnormalities
seems to be that they were very unhappy before they considered an
alternative life style.  This may be evidence that they are the same as us
but many of them thought being "Gay" would solve there problems and never
turned to God. 
> >> I also understand that one can have homosexual desires and yet not practice
> >> homosexuality, in which case I cannot say that this person is living in
> sin.
We don't know but it does sound like they are still deluded by a human
philosophy.  They may need your love (agape), they may need preaching and
they may need prayer.

I am no one to judge, but remember if the're save the devil wants them
back..

>   
> >  Does a heterosexual who constantly lusts after women without completing
> >  t.he act right?
> 
> Lust is wrong. When it is conceived, it brings forth sin, and when sin is
> finished,
> it brings forth death. LUST itself is not the big sin. You must read that
> scripture
> properly. It says "he who looks upon a woman TO LUST AFTER HER, which
> means he is looking at her with the intent to lust after her. It's not the
> same as
> seeing an attractive woman and admiring her beauty. Get it right!
The question is are they doing all in there power to resist temptation and
lead a holy lifestyle.
> Anyway, I never said that homosexuals live in a state of constant lust. In
> fact,
> it is quite the contrary. Homosexuals are the same as you or I when it comes 
> to lust. There are promiscuous homosexuals, and those who are abstinent.
This is quite different from gays I've met, abstenate or not but many
things are possible.
>