Garbage on the list...

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Bro. T:
What I want to know is .... Bro Timothy... what are you henceforth calling
garbage?  By my reading of your "garbagification" is seems like the key to
understanding what you're handling the name of "garbage" to is contained
in the above #2 (of Bro Timothy's) in how the paragraph of Bro Mike Reed
are correctly applied in presumption or not.

In speaking of Standards ... Bro Mike said above four things ....

Me:
While these things were directed to Bro. Jerry, I have been to the mat on
these things with Bro. Mike before (check the archives) and since this is a
public forum and all that is posted is "fair game for all"...


Bro. T:
1) if illogical, then you might not be reachable

    [ false if  *illogical* and "Bro Timothy" is reachable ]

Me:
It is illogical and I can be reached.  Bro. Richard "reached" me with the
verse from Acts when I was spouting the heresy about no one being baptized
in the Holy Ghost.  Proof that I can be reached, it just has to be Bible and
you have to be RIGHT.

2) if logical, not willing to put down worldly pleasures

    [ false if *logical* and "Bro Timothy" is willing to put down
pleasures ]

Me:
Again it is illogical and I haven't watched a TV in this house since I moved
into it.  I have been delivered from alcoholism and all kinds of other
worldly pleasures.  I could pick them back up again and in fact tell Satan
all the time, that if I ever REALLY want to, I will.


Bro. T:
3) headonistic attitude (I can handle, I can have, I will ...)

    [ false if there's not a spirit of "I" in Bro Timothy ]

Me:
*I* can tell you about what God has done for me!  I can show you how He will
do this for you too!  *I* can pray for you!  *I* can weep with you!  *I* can
really feel your pain but *I* can tell you from experience that *HE* can see
you through ANYTHING!!!  The only *I* in me is the witness of what *HE* has
made of a WORTHLESS, ARROGANT, HATEFUL, SPITEFUL, LUST CRAZED, MEAN, BITTER,
SELF LOATHING SHELL OF A CREATURE WORSE THAN AN ANIMAL!  Without *HIM*, that
is what *I* would be again today!


Bro. T:
4) attitude where "ain't nobody gonna tell me what to do!"

    [ false if Bro Timothy doesn't take advise from pastors/misisters
       or anybody else for all that matters (back to unreachable) ]

Me:
I am properly submitted to my bishop/pastor and love him dearly.  He calls
me "son" all the time.  When I go to ask him for confirmation in the Lord, I
don't have to tell him what I am seeking for, HE TELLS ME the answer first,
then we discuss it.  He has told me that he has utmost confidence in me;
that I will do that which God requires.  We join hands in taking on the
leading of the church with him clearly and without question in the lead.  I
do this willingly and without reservation first bacause God told me he was
"my bishop" and then for the love of the man and lastly because I covet
dearly to have the faith of this man!  We do not always agree but we do
always 'come to an agreement'.  I can tell him whatever come to my mind and
he isn't afraid of it at all.  When I came to this church and told him that
I was called, I told him when asked why I thought so, that if God was with
me, I would stand and that if God was not, I should fall.  I said that it
would be God that recomended me or disapproved of me.  If 'Pop' told me to
shave: I WOULD SHAVE.  "Pop" said he liked his ministers in suits: I WORE A
SUIT UNTIL I FOUND OUT THAT HE MEANT JUST IN THE PULPIT.


Bro. T:
If none are applicable to Bro Timothy, then the supposition that Bro Reed
has been writing from is in error which would qualify Bro Timothy to
classify the four points as "garbage".  Because he generated a bad
assessment on an incorrect premise.  If that's the case, then the way
that #2 refers to the above four ideas is correct.... garbage.

Me:
I'm not the one to judge in this case.


Bro. T:
Now, if that's the case, Bro Jeff Wescott owes Bro Timothy a public
apology .... let's hear from Bro Timothy first.

Me:
I started to write this in another post but the Lord held me back, now I
know why....

Matthew 5
25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him;
lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge
deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.

In leu of an apology, I would rather the brother pray about it, and then if
the Lord has a Word for me, I will follow this advise:

James 1
19 Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to
speak, slow to wrath:

20 For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.

21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and
receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.

Luke 6:26
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