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Brother Litteral wrote:
> Umm.... there are at least 5 demensions: length, width, height, time and
mass or 
> gravitational "pull."  In general, anything that can be measured, is a
demension.  
> Thought can be measured and this is the "depth" of the passage you
quoted.
>
> We precieve time as "linier": past =>present=>future but if you will,
draw a line of a 
> piece of paper.  The beginning of the line is the beginning of
time/creation and the end > of the line is end of time/creation.  Now you
are "outside" of this system.  If someone 
> on the line is at the beginning of the line, you ARE.  If someone is in
the middle of the > line, you ARE.  And if someone is at the end of the
line, you ARE.  

I was not implying that the dimension mentioned in Eph 3:19 negates,
displaces 
or replaces any other dimension (such as time).  I was trying to point out
that 
God has indicated that He is beyond our natural three spatial dimensions. 
And 
I do believe I used the term spatial dimensions.  

I generally regard thought as a two dimensional quantity.  It has existence
as, 
shall we say, a 'planer' reality and is defined by time as well.  As a
hypothetical 
line has only two dimensions, so it is with thought.  It exists in a
similar way as 
the words you are reading right now.  They are virtually flat, thereby
having only 
two dimensions.  Thoughts exist as a quantity of electricity in our brains 
(though I am not saying they do not go beyond that).  They also exist in a
finite 
quantity of time.  (Though anyone who has ever gotten the theme from
Gilligan's 
Island stuck in their heads would argue that some thoughts are endless.)  

While time is certainly a dimension for us, we exist in a finite time
frame.  I have 
freedom to move in three dimensional space but no freedom to move in time. 
I 
always exist in a moment of time.  [Here it comes, wait for it, wait for it
.. oops, 
too late, it's gone!]  God exist outside of time and can move freely within
it.

When we receive the Spirit of God we receive something that transcends time

and space.  It is as a doorway to the infinite.  Does the Holy Ghost
change?  
While we might 'feel' more of less of the Spirit of Christ, He changes not.
 He 
is the same yesterday, today and forever.  Therefore, we have a measure of 
the infinite within us, a link to a spiritual existence which we will one
day 
possess as our own (the spiritual existence that is).  That is why the Holy
Ghost 
is the 'earnest of our inheritance'.  Jesus in His glorified state defied
three 
dimensional space and probably defied time.  He certainly defied
gravitational 
force when He ascended.  

Which makes me wonder about scriptures such as the following:
(Acts 8:39-40 KJV)  "And when they were come up out of the water
the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him 
no more: and he went on his way rejoicing. {40} But Philip was 
found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, 
till he came to Caesarea."

These seem very cryptic.  How was Philip 'caught away'?  Seems interesting 
to me that the word used here for 'caught away' is 'harpazo'
(Strong's:G726). 
It is also used in the following scriptures:
 
(Matthew 11:12 KJV)  "And from the days of John the Baptist until 
now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take 
it by force."

[take it by force=harpazo]

(2 Corinthians 12:2 KJV)  "I knew a man in Christ above fourteen 
years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the 
body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the 
third heaven."

[caught up=harpazo]

And of course:

(1 Thessalonians 4:17 KJV)  "Then we which are alive and remain 
shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord 
in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

[caught up=harpazo]

Just interesting, that's all.

Kathy Dimick
Falkville, Alabama
kdimick@colsa.com
kedimick@hotmail.com
http://members.tripod.com/~coffeepleaz/index.html

"For to me to live is Christ"

P.S. Isn't there a current quantum physics theory out there that postulates

26 dimensions?  I forget to whom it belongs.  Anyone??