Three Gods

"Timothy Litteral" (brotim@gte.net)
Tue, 15 Jul 1997 09:14:15 -0400


You:
> Not necessarily. "Distinct" definitely can mean "separate." But in this
context the distinctions refer to three distinguishing realities within one
being. 

Me:
I am not "jumping" here everyone, OK?  The ONLY "REALITY" within the Father
is the Father, the only "Person", personality, mind, emotion, love,
purpose, blah, blah, blah, blah in the God head is that of the Father. 
Anything else, and I don't care who wrote it, is false doctrine.  

Jesus Christ is the "express image" of God the Father.  He is the
"expression" of the Father.  The Father "expressed" *Himself* in the flesh.
 What is so tough about that?  I ask you Sis, is THAT what the trinitarians
are saying?  Posting text from high ups in orginaizations that agree with,
or try to accomodate  this heresy changes nothing.

You:
> Exactly the point! Augustine designated the Father, Son and Holy Ghost as
divine "persons" within the one, indivisible divine substance. 

Me:
Umm....  I think you missed the point!  My hand is not "me" Sis. but where
"me" resides. ;-)  There are "distinctions" in this "body" but not in the
"me" that resides in it.  When I write on Higher Fire I relate to y'all in
a different manner and attitude than I do with my daughter but it is still
the one undivided "me."  This letter you are reading is a different
"manifestation" of me than if we talk in person but it would be ABSURD to
asign this as a "part" of me and say it is of the "same essence but
distinct."  The thought portrayed here is of the same "essence" as I
because the "me" that lives in this tabernacle IS thought.

You:
> I was by no means claiming his Trinitarian views and Oneness are the
same.

Me:
Right, and the point here is that ANYONE who isn't in the Oneness doctrine
worships in vain, a false God. ;-)

You:
> But we can't force a tritheistic interpretation of "persons" as separate,
absolute entities or beings on his theology. 

Me:
Quite the contraty, I try to EXPOSE this from WITHIN this blasphemy.

MeB4:
> >Did this guy use the term "they" in reference to the God head?  I'd say
he did!  I have debated several trinitarians and they simply can't debate
very long without using the term "they" in regard to the God head!  "They"
is plural.

You: 
> And, so is "we."
 
> John 14:24: Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will
keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and
make our abode with him.

Me:
This Scripture doesn't have ANYTHING to do with the God head, which is the
Spirit we refer to as the Father.  I will assume you are trying to point
out the definate distinction AND separation between God and the *flesh in
which He manifested Himself.  I freely admit this but don't see where it
makes your point.  Jesus was the flesh in which God manifested Himself. 
This made Him a man, a man whose Spirit WAS AND IS God.
The flesh was not God.  Spirit= one, flesh= one, one +one=we.

There IS a separation between the Spirit of God that dwelt in Jesus making
Him Christ and the flesh that "housed" Him.  It is error of the most
grievious king to try to make ANY DISTINCTIONS in God who is CLEARLY
proclaimed in the Bible from beginning to end as *ONE.*

Timothy Litteral
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