Litteral on Beards

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I said:  
>  Had our pastor asked my husband to shave the mustache, I know he would
> have done so **immediately**  because of his respect for the position,
and> the man. 
> 
> Bro. Tim responded::
> I must admit that I can't really find your point here.  You didn't like
the> beard so your husband shaved it.  The pastor had a problem with it too
but> didn't feel he had the right to say anything about or something so
between> the two of you, the mustache went. 

 my response:  ouch ouch ouch!!! Did I step on your toes, or are you
stepping on mine! Either way, no offense was intended!  When I
first met my husband, I was very "attracted" to his full beard and
mustache.
My hubby is a big, manly guy and I just "loved" the facial hair. I guess
what bothered me most about the beard after we came into the Church
was the feeling I could sense from others of our faith when we 
attended functions (outside our local Section/District) where we were 
not known (i.e. General Conference, East Coast Conference, etc..). So 
many people "assumed" my husband was unsaved because of the full
beard/mustache. My husband's beard/mustache was never a symbol of 
rebellion, as I clearly stated that he was willing to shave if asked by our

Pastor. He simply felt he was more attractive (to me) with the facial hair 
as he knew my preference for this "type" of guy before we married.

 I guess I will "stick a noose around my neck again"  by saying this, 
but so be it. This past weekend my daughter (age 9) asked if we could
watch an old family video that was taken nine years ago at 
Christmas. This was before we were in Church. It was such a shock
to me to see ourselves the way we used to look compared to how we
look now.  My daughter, in all her wisdom, summed it up like this
"Mom, you sure were ugly before you got in Church". I said, "well
thank you so much, that's what every woman longs to hear". She 
then said " I'm sorry Mommy, I just meant that some people might
think you were pretty in a "worldly way" , but  I think you are
so much more beautiful now".  She often likes to tell people when
they visit our home and see the old  family photos on the wall that "those
are pictures of my mom when she was ugly."  We women need to teach
our daughters the beauty of holiness by example. If we live it **and**
love it, so will they!

You further stated: 
 I have heard it all.  It all comes down to this, if your pastor will not
> let me preach in your church with my beard and without a suit
> and tie, he has sinned.  This goes for all those who "stick to their own
> orginization" too.
> 
my response: It is not up to me who preaches in our Church. That is for
my Pastor to decide. But, surely, you wouldn't think it ever appropriate to
preach in another's church without a suit and tie? We're not talking street
revival or camp meeting here. Our pastor does take off his suit jacket
from time to time while preaching, but I have never yet seen him take off 
his tie, no matter how hot it gets on the platform.  That's just my Pastor,
he's from the old school, I guess. As for your beard, if my Pastor felt you
had a message from God, I believe he would permit you to deliver it. Our 
pastor has those "eyes" that can see right through you. He is a praying
man, and I believe God has given him the gift of discernment. He
would be able to see past your beard (even though he doesn't like beards
on the platform)  and see into your heart. He's that kind of man.

As a final note, if your beard does not condemn you, far be it from
me to do so. God sees our hearts and he knows our innermost thoughts.
That's good enough for me!

Sis Donna