Acts 17:30

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At 06:57 PM 4/16/98 EDT, Bro Sterrett wrote:

>Bro Tyler wrote:
>
>>I think this is typical of apostolic churches in their intolerance of
>>ideas, values, and habits.....
>
>>Instead of finding out why something happened the way it did and trying
>>to gain understanding of it and see if something can be done to prevent
>>it in the future, it's just condemned with no lattitude of forgiveness 
>>bringing much shame.  
>
>This is not true of all Apostolic churches.  It is more of a judgement
>call on
>your part or whom ever spoke it at the time. 

Not all apostolic churches ... true.  But, I see this a part of a
bigger picture.  I don't look at it in terms of using only a filthy
word out of place kinda thing.  

These infractions could be any of a multitude of things that aren't 
considered acceptable by the local assemblies as a whole (almost like 
the unwritten rules of oneness apostolics).  Just cross one of them and
the gossip mill is a *buzzing*.  Before you know it, condemnation of
the local assembly has come down on the one whose done something wrong.

I think this is more typical of a situation in apostolic assemblies:

   "Did you see so-n-so?"  

   "No, what happened?"  "Well, she did _______.   And you know how 
   Pastor Whoozits preached agin it the other day."  

   "Yeah, I know ... she's doomed.  There's no hope for her now."

Instead of this:

   "Did you see so-n-so?"  

   "No, what happened?"  "Well, she did _______.   And you know how 
   Pastor Whoozits preached agin it the other day."  

   "Yeah, I know ... maybe we should have a talk with her and try to see
   what's bothering her.  We can even pray and fast on her behalf."

   "Yeah ... I go with you and pray and fast as well.  God sure loves
   her."

>As for the church not forgiving, that is absurd in my opinion.  Sure, you 
>have some fanatical type churches who might push you out, but for every 
>fanatical church there is a true Holy Ghost filled Apostolic church awaiting 
>you.

Back when I was in Illinois, I would have agreed with that.  The Spirit
of the Lord is always good.  But in some churches, the Spirit is not to
be found.  Saints sing with their talent instead of annointing.  Preachers
preach a message they want to deliver instead of what God wants them to
deliver.  In general, "signs aren't following them that (supposedly) 
believe".

>Independant(secular) reports have been done on Apostolics and have shown 
>that the Apostolic belief in general has more 'former' depressed people, 
>suicidal people, durg addicts, alcohol abusers, etc.  Why is this?  They
said 
>it was because the Apostolic movement showed more love and open arms to that 
>person.  How can this be if what you stated is true?

I think the apostolic church reaches out *better* than the rest.
They have a firmer grasp of the big picture.  Even though they 
reach out, it doesn't mean that sometimes people don't get turned
away or run out.

Bro Tyler
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