Acts 17:30

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Acts|17:30  And the times of this ignorance God winked at; 
but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

I don't understand where you can tell us that the curse word
should not offend us, Superdave?  It is a offensive word, clear
and simple.  

Bro Tyler apologized and that was that.  We should ALL accept
that.  It was mearly a mistake.

I think now the problem is, and this is the reason I am responding,
is the ignorance that some are having towards the world.

1 Timothy|4:1  Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter 
times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits,
and doctrines of devils;
1 Timothy|4:2  Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared
 with a hot iron.

"Having their conscience seared with a hot iron"

Many years ago, ghost stories, or a simple "BOO" would of
scared someone who was watching a TV show at the time.
Here we are in the 90's now, and look at what it takes to 
scare someone who regularly watches them.  Science has 
proven that it is taking more and more violence and or blood
and gore, in order to capture the attention and keep the
audience clammoring for more.  Why is this?  It is because
there once clear conscience has been seared with a hot iron.

If you were to take a hot iron to your skin, it would burn
the skin, and take weeks to heal.  Instead of healing 100%,
the burned area will leave scar tissue.  The same it is with
our conscience.  The more we allow to pervert our minds, 
and the more we accept of the world, our conscience becomes
burned as with a hot iron.  When it goes to heal, it
will be with scar tissue.  The more scar tissue allowed to form
in your conscience, the more 'open-minded' we are to the world,
and the more Holiness becomes a 'legalistic' thing, or standards
which are supposedly 'forced' on someone.

Hopefully there are enough mature adults on this HF
discussion list to see, that Bro Tyler is not the issue anymore.
The word in question however, WAS offensive no matter who posted it!
We as Christians should find those type of things repulsive as the Holy
Ghost in our hearts give us a diserning of a situation.  
It is quiet possible, that some don't find it offensive, because it
has become a scar in their conscience.

Bro Tyler wrote:

>I think this is typical of apostolic churches in their intolerance of
>ideas, values, and habits.....

>Instead of finding out why something happened the way it did and trying
>to gain understanding of it and see if something can be done to prevent
>it in the future, it's just condemned with no lattitude of forgiveness 
>bringing much shame.  

This is not true of all Apostolic churches.  It is more of a judgement
call on
your part or whom ever spoke it at the time. 

Try doing some of the same things within a Strong Southern Baptist
discussion
list and/or church and see the reactions.  It is *not* just a Apostolic
reaction
that you seen towards the accidental posting of the curse word, but a
Christians
Holy Ghost filled soul responding.  

As for the church not forgiving, that is absurd in my opinion.  Sure, you
have
some fanatical type churches who might push you out, but for every
fanatical
church there is a true Holy Ghost filled Apostolic church awaiting you.  

Independant(secular) reports have been done on Apostolics and have shown
that
the Apostolic belief in general has more 'former' depressed people,
suicidal people,
durg addicts, alcohol abusers, etc.  Why is this?  They said it was
because the Apostolic
movement showed more love and open arms to that person.  How can this be
if
what you stated is true?  

Clearly we are in a time where Apostolics are now being asked to 'wink'
at sin,
and/or the ideas of the world.  We are being asked to sign
reconciliations
with heretical movements such as Word of Faith, Trinity, etc.  We are
being labeled
as legalist, controlling, judgemental, un-loving, etc.  The Apostolic
movement
has never been more loving than it is now.  If it was not loving, it
would not be
growing in numbers, and the churches would not be standing today.  
The Apostolic movement is neither judgemental nor rude in its ways.  The
reason the world and compromising folk look at us in that light is due to
their
seared conscience, and allowing the world to pervert their minds into 
thinking we need to be more "open-minded."  The truth of the matter is,
the gate and way our narrow......if it takes a "narrow-minded" approach,
and calling sin, sin, then so be it.  It is the open-mindedness that has
allowed
homosexuality to become a accepeted thing in America.  It is open-minded
type
people who when questioned about our immoral president, they say,
"I don't care who he is sleeping with."  "Just leave him alone."
It is also open-minded folk, who when they hear or see a curse word, or
something un-Christian, instead of standing up for the truth, they coward
in the shadow, and high tail it in the opposit direction.  Your silence
is in essence saying you agree with what that person said or did.  You 
don't have to judge that person, nor hate them, but as some have done
on this list, have shown that the word offended them.  

God is no longer winking at sin....neither should we.

CD Sterrett
sterrett@juno.com



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