who/what controls (wasRe: Pantyhose and Knee Highs)

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On 02/28/98 at 11:26 AM, FITZGEREL <FITZGEREL@aol.com> said:

>In a message dated 2/28/98 8:22:58 AM Mountain Standard Time,
>grimel@icx.net writes:

>> The problem isn't TV, the problem needing to be addressed is one of
>>  personal responsibility. ... God gave me the Holy Ghost and a
>>  brain - he expects me to use them.

>I believe this is true, Skip.  However the primary purpose of TV is
>entertainment or fantasy land.  Anything can be abused if its the desire
>of the individual to stray into forbidden areas.  Yes, even a computer,
>that's why some get into trouble with cyber sex and all of that nonsense,
>its the individual.

Agreed, and I'll add anything can be abused, even "studying" the Word. 
Just take a look at the crackpot ideas concerning salvation req from
various "Christian" groups.

>As a Christian I don't play on the computer.

???

>I don't do chat rooms, its just the breeding ground for a lot of idle gossip and in the world >most of it is lewd.

I'll buy that one, in 7+yrs of Compuserve(and 3 on Prodigy) I found a
total of 3 chat rooms that weren't either lewd or marginal.  One was
Christian discussion, two were technical discussions.  I only chat in a
requested topic forum(and rarely then)

>I don't just playfully search the web, I do what I came on to do and go about my business.  >Because people make decision and computers lie everything else becomes a problem when >you abuse it, and we are responsible for that decision.

Well, the 'net is the "ultimate" resource and I do leave my box on 24x7. 
Most everything I do on a consistent basis is in an electronic
format(news, correspondence, games, research topics).  I rarely open a
printed Bible except in Church, my computer Bible is much quicker and has
better resources.

Yes, I'm a technophile.  I don't have a desire for the cybertrash, and
really despise the x-rated spam flooding the various newsgroups(and
finding my email box).  I've set up so many filters that I catch about 1
of Bro Tyler's messages a week.

>its the sole purpose of the device.  And with the strong inroads into the
>minds of the children of God, it quickly robs the unsuspecting of there
>moral fiber and conscience, plus there time and finally is the focus of
>there whole life.

That is a sad.                

>The rebellious nature of children in the world today, can be attributed to TV. 

Here we disagree. IMNSHO, children today are rebellious due to a lack of
discipline from parents(and schools).  Blame the liberals and their
non-Biblical ideas.

Amount of TV doesn't necessarily correlate to a child's rebellious
nature(Cain comes to mind).

>In most homes where people want to live for God and they own a TV and
>they try to control the knob, they usually do for them selves.  But there
>children have more time to kill that they do, so the children end up
>watching things that Mom and Dad would not watch.  So I contend the knob
>that you need to control, is the door know.

At the risk of sounding shall we say more obnoxious than normal, if the
children are watching things Mom and Dad wouldn't watch whose fault is it? 
The PARENTS, the children shouldn't have more time to kill(homework, play,
chores).  And the PARENTS shouldn't be letting the children do much of
anything unsupervised.

Would a responsible parent let a 5yr old drive a car?  dispense his own
medicine?  give him a loaded gun and tell him go play?  go to the
bookstore and buy what ever appeals to him?

So why would a responsible parent let a child watch TV unsupervised?  The
thing has an on/off switch, it is possible to change channels.

Again, I place the fault at the feet of the adults watching the TV, not
the TV.  Killing the messenger for the message isn't the solution.  Going
back to old fashioned personable accountability is the answer.

The trend, in America, to blame everyone else for an individual's problems
other than the individual is the problem.  TVs don't make you watch
garbage, booze doesn't make you drive, guns don't kill people, cigarettes
don't make you smoke'm, drugs don't make you take'm.  It is a free will
choice.  Just like serving God.

Skip

a wise man learns from his mistakes; a genius learns from the mistakes of
others

A fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place - anon.

Windows95  -  from the people who brought you   EDLIN

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