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Josh Allen writes: (Me BEFORE) :)
Let us even get a burden for our neighbors who worship at the 
"Full-gospel" church down the road. Yes, that means we need a burden 

for our AOG.Charismatic, Charasmatic {Pentecostal} friends for they 
have a form of godliness but deny the power thereof.May God bless you 

as you endeavor to preach the Word of the One, True and Living God."
Gerald Drost writes:
As pastor of the Full Gospel Pentecostal Church of Newcastle Bridge, 

N.B. I appreciate the "burden for our neighbors who worship at the 
"Full- gospel church down the road" . I trust that includes the 
pastor and church across the border in Canada.
When will people learn that labels are not a true description of 
people, even the UPC is not always the same in every church, maybe 
you need to pray for some upc church down the road, or Apostolic 
church, etc.  I wonder how many will get to heaven if you are that 
one that decides.  I for one am glad that God will decide who gets to 

heaven and that I am not the one that decides. Anyway lots of prayer 

for our Full Gospel Pentecostal Church!!
gdrost@nbnet.nb.ca
Gerald Drost

I write:
My apologies Brother Drost.  I have nothing against our apostolic 
brothers with independent churches, our Apostolic AOG brothers (I 
don't know, some AOG churches may actually preach the ENTIRE message 
of salvation and Holiness! =>) or our ALJC brothers!  (And sisters, 
yes :)  I hope this was a simple misunderstanding on what I was 
saying and not a nit-pick.  I wanted to relay my thought without 
people getting hung up on the words (Much like some UPC churches are 
hung up on the name).  

First of all, my point was:  We need to pray for those that may 
believe in speaking of tongues, but only for the gift.  Believe in 
the baptism of the Holy Ghost, but only for the blessing.  Believe in 
baptism in water, but only for the ceremony. Believe in the name of 
Jesus for everything but baptism in water.  We have many so-called 
"Pentecostal" churches in my small town.  We have the "Pentecostal 
Church of God" (Charasmatic--IOW: They can shout and dance, but they 
probably have no idea why they are doin it...?), "The Church" 
(charasmatic), "Full Gospel Tabernacle" (charasmatic), and many 
others.  The only AOG (Assembly of God) church continues to tell me 
that they are a Pentecostal just like me. (1st AOG is obviously 
charasmatic--For example, a member might tell you they had 20 saved 
and after that, 3 were baptized in the Holy Ghost, although no one 
spoke in tongues, and they baptized about 4 in the name of the F,S, 
HG.) So, now I am getting away from calling myself just a 
"Pentecostal" (Just as many of you shy away from the perverted term 
"christian").  I call myself a UPC'er (because most people know what 
that is...not just for the name's sake) or, more often, an Apostolic. 
 God forbid that I require God's church to have a name or a head 
other than the name and leadership of Christ.  I am for the UPC and 
other Apostolic organizations only for the benifit of better 
communication with "Sister-churches."  In fact, our church sends our 
money only to certain missions and funds of the UPC instead of the 
UPC directly.  We have also been saying we are AKA "First Church on 
the Hill."  So, as you can see, neither I nor my church is hung up on 
names or organizations. When someone tells me they are "Pentecostal", 
it usually leads me to ask (embarrasing on my part) questions like 
"Well, do you affirm Acts 2:38?"  (They say WHAT?  I say, you know, 
the three requirements of salvaiton and they usually say, "Well do 
you affirm John 3:16?" and I say yes and they say "Well then, welcome 
brother."  And I say, "but that is only one scripture in the bible, 
we must use the WHOLE bible to find salvation" and it usually leads 
to confusion.)  However, if someone says, I am from the UPC or the 
ALJC or even (I'm makin this one up) "The Apostolic organization of 
Acts 2:38", then I can promote brotherhood with the "Pentecostal" 
full in the assurance that this person has received the plan of 
salvation as laid out in the Bible and not the common plan laid out 
by man.  No brother, I don't have anything against you, your church, 
or canada (or Iraq, for those interested :).  I don't defend the UPC 
when it makes a mistake and I don't condemn either.  My purpose is to 
serve God in His spirit and in His church (That being the local body 
of Christ with which I worship, 1st UPC....AKA 1st church on the Hill.
)  God never gave His church a name and I won't either.  But He did 
give us a doctrine and I can find His church with a doctrinal 
checklist I like to call the Bible.  :-)  God bless you all and 
forgive my lack of elaboration.

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In Apostolic service to our Lord Jesus Christ,
Josh Allen {LSVH37A@Prodigy.com}
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I affirm the biblical foundation for a relationship with God: We are 
to turn away from doing wrong, be baptized in the name of Jesus in 
accordance with scriptural examples, receive the marvelous gift of 
the Holy Spirit, and embrace a daily walk with Him. (See Acts 2:38)
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God bless you and keep you in His wonderful grace!