Books of the Bible(was Re: Original Language) 2nd try

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An answer to  "caryle clear" <cpcj@sprynet.com>
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Subject: Books of the Bible(was Re: Original Language)


Dr. Marx wrote (for some reason):
| The Hebrew Bible (Tanakh) and how it compares to the Greek Septuagint,
| in the way the books are laid out, with other helpful notes.
| 
<snip> 
| Total Books (28)

| The Greek Septuagint:
<snip>

| Total Books (39)
| 
| King James Bible follows the lay out of the Greek Septuagint, not the
| Hebrew Tanakh Yehoshuha recommended reading for understanding. 

You
Since you fail to cite any sources for this statement (meaning you must
be
your own source) then I feel compelled to reply with the following.

Me 
I did site my source Yehoshuha's statement Luke 24:44, 45. It appears
that you feel Harved Grad. Out weighs Yehoshuha's example, and Bible He
recommended to be read, by us dumb folks. Never the less I stick with
Yehoshuha's recommendation. Some of us dummies still believe what he
said. 

You
The following was taken from handouts received in my "Intro. to the Old
Testament/Hebrew Bible" class, as well as "Judaism: Culture, Practices
and
Beliefs" class in which I am currently enrolled.  The information is
identical and is taken from Encyclopedias (any will contain the same
info.,
I'm sure).

I feel it is important to note that the professor for the "Hebrew Bible"
class is a graduate of Hebrew Union College in Cincinnati, Ohio.  The
professor of my "Judiasm" class is a Reform Jewish Rabbi.
Me 
I received some hand outs from my teachers to, like, Moses and the
Prophets, as well as  Yehoshuha, John, Luke, Mark, Matthew, etc. all
mine can be found in the Bible. 

You
The Hebrew Bible (TaNaK, an acronym for the parts of the book):
I. Torah (Pentateuch)1. Genesis (B'reshit) 2. Exodus (Sh'mot) 3.
Leviticus (Vayyiqra) 4. Numbers (Bamidbar) 5. Deuteronomy (D'vurim)

II. Neviim (Prophets) A. Former Prophets 6. Joshua (Y'hoshua) 7. Judges
(Shofrim) 8. Samuel (Shmu'el) 9. Kings (M'lakhim) B. Latter Prophets 10.
Isaiah (Y'shayahu)11. Jeremiah (Yirm'yahu)
12. Ezekiel (Y'hezqel) 13. Book of the Twelve (Tre'Asar) (Hosea, Joel,
Amos, Obadiah, Jonah, Micah, Nahum, Habakkuk, Zephaniah, Haggai,
Zechariah, and Malachi)

III. K'tuvim (Writings) A. The Book of Truth ('eMeT) 14. Psalms
(T'hillim)15. Proverbs (Mishle)
16. Job ('Iyyov) B. The "Five Scrolls" (read on various Jewish
Festivals)17. Song of Songs (Shir Hashirim--read on Passover)18. Ruth
(read on Shavuot/Pentecost) 19. Lamentations ('Ekhah--read on the 9th of
Av) 20. Ecclesiastes (Qohelet--read on Sukkot/Tabernacles/Booths)
21. Esther (read on Purim) C. The Remaining Writings 22. Daniel 23.
Ezra-Nehemiah ('Ezra-N'hemyah) 24. Chronicles (Divre Hayamim)

Total number of Books: 24 (= the 39 Protestant Books)
---------------------------------------------
The Protestant Bible
I. Pentateuch 1. Genesis 2. Exodus 3. Leviticus 4. Numbers 5.
Deuteronomy

II. Historical Books
6. Joshua 7. Judges 8. Ruth 9. I Samuel 10. II Samuel 11. I Kings 12. II
Kings 13. I Chronicles
14. II Chronicles 15. Ezra 16. Nehemiah 17. Esther 

III. Wisdom Books (or poetry)18. Job 19. Psalms 20. Proverbs 21.
Ecclesiastes 22. Song of Solomon (=Song of Songs)

IV. Prophetic Books
23. Isaiah 24. Jeremiah 25. Lamentations 26. Ezekiel 27. Daniel 28.
Hosea 29. Joel 30. Amos
31. Obadiah 32. Jonah 33. Micah 34. Nahum 35. Habakkuk 36. Zephaniah 37.
Haggai
38. Zechariah 39. Malachi

Total number of books: 39 (= the 24 Jewish books)
Frankly, Dr. Marx, I'm beginning to wonder about your purposes here. 
The
books are exactly the same, only the order is shifted a little.  

You wrote:
>>>
Yehoshuha was making clear that the Hebrew Bible works best with the
Spirit they
were about to receive in the upper room. 
<<<
Hmmm, I assume the passage you are referring to is this(since you don't
quote it exactly--or maybe you did and I just missed it):

Me
You missed more then the passage!!!

You
Luke 24:44
And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while
I
was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written
in
the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

Me
As I pointed out in my post Luke 24:44 perfectly describes the Hebrew
Bible (Tanakh) that we dummies adhere to. BarRuch HaShem (Thank G-d).

You
I don't understand your agenda with the last several subjects you have
written about.  You seem to be asserting that we are to become Jewish or
something to really be partakers of the truth.  Yet that is not the case
as
is written over and over in the epistles:

Me 
I think you are getting the idea!

You
Romans 10: 11-12
For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be
ashamed. 
For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same
Lord
over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

Me
This is true all no matter to whom they are born can receive salvation.
The operative words are: Whosoever BELIEVETH ON HIM shall not be
ashamed. 

You
Gal. 3:26-29
For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.  For as
many
of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.  There is
neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither
male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.  And if ye be
Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the
promise.

Me
this is true, they way Paul wrote it, but is not the way you are trying
to apply it. 
 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ (Moshiach) have
put on Christ. (Moshiach) keep in mind that when Acts 2:38 is altered to
read "Jesus" instead of Jesus Christ as it should be the one being
immersed is not putting on Christ (Moshiach) and has made Yehoshuha a
gentile. 

When Yehoshuha is Gentilized he is removed from the identity with
Abraham, and His Jewishness is destroyed. When one is properly taught,
he / she at the time of their immersion is fully aware that they are
converting to the faith of Abraham and Yehoshuha which is one and the
same faith.
  
And if ye be Christ's, (Mishiach's) then are ye Abraham's seed, and
heirs according to the promise.

You
Col. 3:11
Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision,
Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

Me
Yes all become Jews according to the promise. The all share in the faith
of Abraham.

You
(Enough said)

Me
Not enough said, Please respond to my commentary if you can.

You
What are you trying to prove here, Dr. Marx? 

Me
That it's all in him it's all in Him the mighty G-d is Yehoshuha and
it's all in Him. It's all in Him it's all in Him the fullness of the
G-dhead and it's all in Him. I like to sing this chorus.

You
 That we are all on the road to Hell because put "Daniel" before
"Hosea"?  Because we say "Jesus" instead of "Yeshua"?  Whoopeedoo.

Me
I doubt if Yehoshaha will Whoopeedo with you, because TRUTH matters. Do
you know why Daniel is not among the Prophets in the Hebrew Tanakh?
Answer if you can! Ask the Harvard Grad, maybe he can help you.

You
  As written above, apparently God doesn't care, why do you seem to want
to make it your mission on this list???

Me
G-d dose care that is why it is written. What is written is the most
powerful tool against falsehood, Yehoshuha proved that to us dummies in
Matthew 4:1-11.

You
Sorry for the outburst, but I'm seeing a definite pattern here and it
burns me up,
Anneliese

Me 
Anneliese, I forgive you! You can't help it your spirit makes you do it.
I praying for you, after all Yehoshuha told us dummies that five signs
would follow us see Mark 16:15-20, He also told us to turn the other
cheek. It good exercise, it keep the Atlas and Axes loose. Ask your
Chiropractor for an explanation. Shalom! I can hardly  wait to answer 
part 2.