Jan's Question

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>Parable mode: I see three people who are about to drown, and I say to 
>them: "I will help those of you who can manage to swim over here." Only 
>one is able to swim over where I am, and I save him, without even getting 
>wet. The other two drown. Am I then "the saver of all these men"?
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>You are making God very small if he's unable to save all men. And you are 
>making hum cruel if you say he is unwilling to save all men.
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Jan, I agreed, God is the Saviour of all men.  Yet to leave your statement
open ended as you have is to say that all men are saved without *any*
qualification puzzles me.

For example Acts 4:11-12 The phrases, 'Stone set at nought becomes the chief
cornerstone' you need not repy to, nor yet 'Niether is there salvation in
any other name' (we understand Peter's reference to the coins of the day
imprinted with, -loosely translated- 'niether is there salvation in any name
but of Ceasar'.  Yet, if these phrases are stictly set in the frame of the
end of things I understand to be Old Coventant.  Is there no continuum in
your mind?

Isaiah 9:6-7 The principle ruleing found on his shoulder (ie the cross?) is
established forever with justice And Judgement.  Does all judgement end
then?  If all judgement ends at 70 AD, then forgive me I become presumtuous,
there is no need of a gospel message to people , for there is no peril?
 
Realizing you are dividing the truth from error in this particular area I
think the Parable Unfair!  A man drowning knows he is in peril realizing his
situation, a man ignorant of such peril would not know to call out!  Are we
to assume that all men understand the peril they are in or are we to preach
the gospel so that all men might believe? Romans 10:14-17. Again I
understand the passage is concerning racial Israel verses 18-21.  

My question is simply, Do you preach a saving gospel? Or am I assuming you
are a preacher?

I was getting ready to post this when all the venom and unchristian conduct
began to flood my mail.  I did not realizing that this is a closed list nor
that such vindictive behavior would be forthcoming.

*If* Jan is writting 'wise___' and 'I'll get you' then I, although a
preterist as well, have the opinion that such a one should be dropped from
this mode of discussion.  BUT IF HE IS CAST OUT FOR HIS VIEWS CONCERNING THE
COMING OF THE LORD AND SALVATION THEN TAKE ME OFF THE LIST ALSO.  I am a
card carrying UPC preacher, I believe the message as strong as any oneness
preacher, but to take such action against a person for his position is
wrong.  If Jan is truely writing such hate mail then say goodbye to him,
unless he repents and asks all to forgive him.

  
He who sows