Jan's Question (resend)

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On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, Mike Murphy wrote:

> As for 0Eystein, hear!
> 
> "But in connection with the coming of our Lord Yeshua the Messiah and our
> gathering together to meet him we ask you, brothers, not to be easily shaken
> in your thinking ... claiming that they day of the Lord has already come.
> DON'T LET ANYONE DECEIVE YOU IN THIS WAY." 1 Thessolonikos 2:1,2b
>        ^^^^^^^
> 
> So if 0Eystein claims the day has already come, he is seeking to deceive us.
> Forgive me, 0Eystein, if I speak falsey. I judge between you and the Word!
> You also said it is a mistake to expect historical circumstances to repeat.
> In the case of your doctrine, it seems they have. :-)


What you just did is very typical for PreMill, you take a verse and rip it
out and use it for totally different circumstances. (BTW: I think you ment
second Thessalonians (Thessolonikos)). 

All of NT was written before the coming of the Lord, to the people that
lived then, obviously waiting for that to happened in their lifetime. So
Paul is absolutely correct when he said that the Lord hadn't come yet. But
read further on from verse 3, and Paul describes what would happen first -
things that all had their fullfillment in the first century. 

So in conclusion: I think to jump past all that and apply that verse to me
- almost 2000 years later - is totally wrong! 


Murph also wrote in another mail:
                                                                                
> I think 0Eystein is cool, but off the mark on saying it's wrong of
> Christians who hold a 2nd coming literalism to do so. Obviously we should
> per Paulos. 

I think you are cool too Murph, but as I have said many times before,
Jesus himself said he would come within that generation. That is as
literal as it can get! 
          
OEystein

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