vgetty rings

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Hi,

Dan Fandrich wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 02, 1998 at 11:56:47PM +0200, Gert Doering wrote:
> > Why do you ask *me* about this?  I do not develop vgetty, and the
> > documentation very explicitely states that vgetty questions are to go to
> > the list or to Marc.
> 
> Sorry, I assumed that the ring counting and modem answering code was
> shared with mgetty.

Well, it is, but it's the voice part that sets it to "2" (if it's in the
voice/ subdirectory, it's Marc's territory).

[The main reason why this is done is that Marc got sick of all the "why
doesn't CallerID work" questions - for CND, you need two RINGs, as the
number is delivered in between].

> > What a crazy idea.  Why do you want to do Hyalfax to do the RING counting,
> > instead of vgetty?  You don't *need* Hylafax then! (You can pretty well
> > use vgetty-only for incoming calls and Hylafax for outgoing calls!).
> 
> Unfortunately, my fax modem supports class 1 fax operation only. Until
> mgetty/vgetty supports class 1, I'm stuck with HylaFAX for faxes.

In that case, you don't WANT mgetty to answer the phone.  You want Hylafax
to answer the phone, and hand over to mgetty if it's a data call.  So,
you don't need the RING/ATA semantics at all, you just want to set
"direct yes, blocking yes, toggle-dtr no" in mgetty.config, and it should
take over just fine.

> > I have a hard time understanding why people want to use Hylafax for
> > incoming *fax* calls, and mgetty for data/PPP, but I can understand the
> > argueing that Hylafax creates .TIF files and mgetty does not.  But why
> > bother with Hylafax if you don't even use its fax reception features???
> 
> But that's one of the features I *do* use. Until HylaFAX supports voice or
> vgetty support class 1 fax, I'll have to use both.

Then you don't need "ring 0" - there is no point in having mgetty answer
the phone. Hylafax will answer (that is: sent the ATA command), mgetty
just has to take over.  Which works fine, because there is no RING/ATA
business at all in that case.

[..]
> I figured there must be some reason that it was set to "at least two"
> instead. I'll take this up with Marc.

See above.

gert
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