Forgot to cc my response to Christopher Unkel, so reposting it here so I don't get asked again: Yes, this was under 1.8.0p2, and yes $server_options.protect_move existed and was set true. --- Brian Buchanan sysop@calbbs.com brian@wasteland.calbbs.com -= ArchWizard of Digital Wasteland MOO (wasteland.calbbs.com 8888) =-